valve body thread leak
I have a few brass bodied valves with threaded inlet connections. The inlet connections are leaking.
The application where they're used requires them to hold pressures of 0-300 psig at temperatures ranging from ambient to -200F.
I
have not been able to confirm with the plant operators whether or not
any sealant was used on the threads. I expect that none was used.
Because of the outlet connection needed, only certain positions (every
90 degrees) can be acheived for tightening down the valve body-ball valve.
The
knee-jerk solution is to tape the threads with teflon tape or similar
material, but I've come across a few cautionary tales about tapes and
puttys. Apparently, typical white teflon tape will creep and squish out
over time. eventually it will not provide a good seal. (or so the story
goes)
I'm also concerned that because the coefficient of thermal
expansion is so much greater for the teflon than either the brass valve
body and 304L pipe. It might shrink more than the metals and cause
leakage to be worse.
Can anyone provide examples of similar
situations, and how it was dealt with? What (if any) sealing materials
might be able to alleviate this problem?
Some folks don't like pipe threads, mostly aerospace. I worked on
cryogenic equipment in the rocket launching industry (Cape Canaveral
& Vandenburg) for 8 years when I got out of college, and for
threaded valves, we'd use a straight thread with some type of crush
metal and/or pressure energized metal gasket. They weren't perfect, but
they worked. Our standard was never to use pipe threads, and in fact,
the range safety document which dictates such things, tells you pipe
thread is not acceptable for cryogenic service.
I got out of
aerospace and have now worked on the cryogenic side of the industrial
gas business for 12 years. Here, we use pipe threaded joints almost
exclusively. I've had better success with pipe thread than the straight
threads. I'd never go back. In fact, some of the equipment I design
has to go onto launch facilities at Cape Canaveral, Kennedy and
Vandenburg, but we've always taken exception to the rule that says no
pipe thread.
Even at 6000 psi and -452 F, pipe threads work
much better than anything else I've used. The threads must be clean and
well formed, 3 wraps of Teflon tape (keep it off the first male thread
so it doesn't get into your flow stream), and generally some halocarbon
grease on top of that, and you shouldn't have any problem. When the
thread is made up, it sqeezes out the Teflon tape to the point it's all
but invisible, it's so thin. Because it's such a thin film, there
really isn't any concern about differential thermal contraction of the
Teflon, nor of it cold flowing. There's just not enough left to move
around. You might be just a tiny bit concerned about the stainless pipe
and brass body, but your installation sounds a lot less demanding than
some of the ones I've seen and I've had lots of good experience with
this simple sealing technique.
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